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Why should the Australian public trust either Professor Murphy, Professor Skerritt or Professor Kelly given they have all made statements that turned out to be grossly misleading? This includes Professor Kelly claiming the vaccines stopped transmission, Professor Murphy claiming there are no spike proteins in the blood and Professor Skerritt claiming the lipids used in the vaccine were like lipids in a steak one eats for breakfast, when in fact there are four lipids used in the vaccine some of which are cationic? Given these claims have been made in estimate hearings why aren’t they held in contempt?

A number of private organisations in the media, medical professionals, and Pfizer have claimed the Comirnaty (Pfizer) COVID-19 vaccine was safe and effective without outlining the risks or lack of quality assurance in regard to testing the vaccine. Genotoxicity, carcinogenic, and longitudinal testing are just some of the tests that didn’t occur. Other risks with missing information are outlined in the table below. There were only around 19,000 from the vaccinated group evaluated when over 21,000 were vaccinated. One of these was Maddie De Garay, a 12-year-old girl, who ended up in a wheelchair being fed through a tube. 1. What laws are in place to ensure that all risks are outlined, as well as the rewards, when medical products are advertised or promoted – if laws do exist why weren’t they upheld in the case the Comirnaty (Pfizer) COVID-19 vaccine? 2. What recourse do victims of the Comirnaty (Pfizer) COVID-19 vaccine have against private organisations such as the media, pharmaceutical companies, and health professionals who constantly repeated the vaccine is safe and effective without highlighting the risks? 3. What steps can the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission take in regard to the promotion of medical products in order to prevent misleading and deceptive conduct in the future? (See table)

1. Are individuals subjected to Covid vaccine mandates being counted in unemployment figures? If not, how are the number of people out work because of mandates being tracked? 2. Is the Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS) tracking deaths by vaccinated status – given it is being recorded on the Australian immunisation register it is possible to do? 3. If so, could the ABS please provide a line-by-line breakout of 2021 deaths by vaccinated versus unvaccinated deaths (personal details other than age can be excluded)? Can the detail include date of death and date of last vaccination? 4. Can the ABS provide a breakout of non-specific causes for 2021 deaths by item code? 5. Why isn’t the ABS comparing 2021 data to 2020 data rather than 2015-2019 given those years were pre-Covid conditions?

Senator RENNICK: Thanks. I thought you guys might have a better understanding, given that you are tech heads who sit there and crunch the numbers. That is good to know. I have one other question. In that breakout last year, there was a big jump in various causes. I did put in a request to the ABS if I could get a breakout of non-specific causes that weren’t listed line by line. Would it be possible to get a breakout of non-specific causes line by line in greater detail? Dr Gruen: We can take that on notice

Senator RENNICK: Did you track how many people are out of work because of the vaccine mandates? In your job numbers, are you tracking how many people are out of work because of vaccine mandates? Dr Gruen: We ask people a range of questions in the labour force survey. Again, I think it’s probably best to pass to Mr Jarvis. Mr Jarvis: We do track across a range of labour market measures people going in and out of employment. We ask questions that focus on a range of reasons, but we don’t ask questions that specifically go to that as a factor. Senator RENNICK: Do I ask you to do that? We have significant labour shortages in this country. I think it is important that people in the government find out at least how much willing but idle labour is sitting there because of those mandates. Is that something you can do? Dr Gruen: We can take that on notice.

Senator RENNICK: Maybe it’s a statement. Let’s move on to the next one. The other night I asked you about blood tests and donating blood after three days. You said there’s no reason why the spike protein would be in the actual blood. Firstly, in the actual non-clinical evaluation report from the TGA it says there is no actual testing of the spike protein in the clinic itself. To say that you wouldn’t know that it’s in the blood – you wouldn’t actually know that because, as it says here, there is no distribution and degradation data on the S-antigen encoding mRNA, that is, the spike protein. The same question to you. The other night you said, ‘It wouldn’t be in the blood.’ My question to you is: how would you know that if there is never any testing done on the spike protein, firstly? A study published in May 2021 documented for the first time that S-proteins were found in 11 of the 13 subjects as early as one day after the injection of, in this case, the Moderna vaccine. Prof. Murphy: Where? Senator RENNICK: In the blood. They found the spike protein in the blood. Studies have found spike proteins in the blood as early as one day after the actual vaccine. Prof. Murphy: All I can say is that I’m happy to take that issue on notice again and get Professor Skerritt to respond on the full dataset that we have around this issue. I’ve not seen any evidence that spike proteins are detected three days after vaccines in any studies that I’ve seen. But I’m not across all of the literature. If it’s a legitimate question I will get the TGA to address it. Senator RENNICK: You wouldn’t find that evidence because there were no studies done, according to this TGA report. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. They are two separate things. […] Prof. Murphy: I certainly didn’t say that, but Professor Skerritt may have. We’ve let him go now. Again, we’ll take it on notice to come back to you on that issue. I have really strong confidence in our regulatory process. We now have real-world evidence of many billions of doses of these vaccines. We believe that they are incredibly effective and incredibly safe. Professor Skerritt said we only had I think 14 confirmed deaths associated with vaccines, and many of them were with AstraZeneca. I really do have great faith in our regulatory system.

Why should the Australian public trust either Professor Murphy, Professor Skerritt or Professor Kelly given they have all made statements that turned out to be grossly misleading? This includes Professor Kelly claiming the vaccines stopped transmission, Professor Murphy claiming there are no spike proteins in the blood and Professor Skerritt claiming the lipids used in the vaccine were like lipids in a steak one eats for breakfast, when in fact there are four lipids used in the vaccine some of which are cationic? Given these claims have been made in estimate hearings why aren’t they held in contempt?

A number of private organisations in the media, medical professionals, and Pfizer have claimed the Comirnaty (Pfizer) COVID-19 vaccine was safe and effective without outlining the risks or lack of quality assurance in regard to testing the vaccine. Genotoxicity, carcinogenic, and longitudinal testing are just some of the tests that didn’t occur. Other risks with missing information are outlined in the table below. There were only around 19,000 from the vaccinated group evaluated when over 21,000 were vaccinated. One of these was Maddie De Garay, a 12-year-old girl, who ended up in a wheelchair being fed through a tube. 1. What laws are in place to ensure that all risks are outlined, as well as the rewards, when medical products are advertised or promoted – if laws do exist why weren’t they upheld in the case the Comirnaty (Pfizer) COVID-19 vaccine? 2. What recourse do victims of the Comirnaty (Pfizer) COVID-19 vaccine have against private organisations such as the media, pharmaceutical companies, and health professionals who constantly repeated the vaccine is safe and effective without highlighting the risks? 3. What steps can the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission take in regard to the promotion of medical products in order to prevent misleading and deceptive conduct in the future? (See table)

1. Are individuals subjected to Covid vaccine mandates being counted in unemployment figures? If not, how are the number of people out work because of mandates being tracked? 2. Is the Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS) tracking deaths by vaccinated status – given it is being recorded on the Australian immunisation register it is possible to do? 3. If so, could the ABS please provide a line-by-line breakout of 2021 deaths by vaccinated versus unvaccinated deaths (personal details other than age can be excluded)? Can the detail include date of death and date of last vaccination? 4. Can the ABS provide a breakout of non-specific causes for 2021 deaths by item code? 5. Why isn’t the ABS comparing 2021 data to 2020 data rather than 2015-2019 given those years were pre-Covid conditions?

Senator RENNICK: Thanks. I thought you guys might have a better understanding, given that you are tech heads who sit there and crunch the numbers. That is good to know. I have one other question. In that breakout last year, there was a big jump in various causes. I did put in a request to the ABS if I could get a breakout of non-specific causes that weren’t listed line by line. Would it be possible to get a breakout of non-specific causes line by line in greater detail? Dr Gruen: We can take that on notice

Senator RENNICK: Did you track how many people are out of work because of the vaccine mandates? In your job numbers, are you tracking how many people are out of work because of vaccine mandates? Dr Gruen: We ask people a range of questions in the labour force survey. Again, I think it’s probably best to pass to Mr Jarvis. Mr Jarvis: We do track across a range of labour market measures people going in and out of employment. We ask questions that focus on a range of reasons, but we don’t ask questions that specifically go to that as a factor. Senator RENNICK: Do I ask you to do that? We have significant labour shortages in this country. I think it is important that people in the government find out at least how much willing but idle labour is sitting there because of those mandates. Is that something you can do? Dr Gruen: We can take that on notice.

Senator RENNICK: Maybe it’s a statement. Let’s move on to the next one. The other night I asked you about blood tests and donating blood after three days. You said there’s no reason why the spike protein would be in the actual blood. Firstly, in the actual non-clinical evaluation report from the TGA it says there is no actual testing of the spike protein in the clinic itself. To say that you wouldn’t know that it’s in the blood – you wouldn’t actually know that because, as it says here, there is no distribution and degradation data on the S-antigen encoding mRNA, that is, the spike protein. The same question to you. The other night you said, ‘It wouldn’t be in the blood.’ My question to you is: how would you know that if there is never any testing done on the spike protein, firstly? A study published in May 2021 documented for the first time that S-proteins were found in 11 of the 13 subjects as early as one day after the injection of, in this case, the Moderna vaccine. Prof. Murphy: Where? Senator RENNICK: In the blood. They found the spike protein in the blood. Studies have found spike proteins in the blood as early as one day after the actual vaccine. Prof. Murphy: All I can say is that I’m happy to take that issue on notice again and get Professor Skerritt to respond on the full dataset that we have around this issue. I’ve not seen any evidence that spike proteins are detected three days after vaccines in any studies that I’ve seen. But I’m not across all of the literature. If it’s a legitimate question I will get the TGA to address it. Senator RENNICK: You wouldn’t find that evidence because there were no studies done, according to this TGA report. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. They are two separate things. […] Prof. Murphy: I certainly didn’t say that, but Professor Skerritt may have. We’ve let him go now. Again, we’ll take it on notice to come back to you on that issue. I have really strong confidence in our regulatory process. We now have real-world evidence of many billions of doses of these vaccines. We believe that they are incredibly effective and incredibly safe. Professor Skerritt said we only had I think 14 confirmed deaths associated with vaccines, and many of them were with AstraZeneca. I really do have great faith in our regulatory system.

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